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The citizens of two federal states

choose your

State parliaments, and the whole

Republic cheers with you. So

will that be on sunday evening

when at 6 p.m. the first results

from Brandenburg and from

Enter Saxony. Here you can

there together only 5.7 million

People choose less than ten

Percent of eligible voters in

whole Germany.

But it's after almost a year

the first major real political

Mood test this time face

the heated mood

in the country more like a fever fair

remind. The European and the Bremen

May elections count because of the

many special factors not really.

But now two federal states

and in addition in the east, which is 30 years

after the session still or

again as a very special problem area

Art shows.

You won't see until Sunday evening

what the predictions of pollsters

really did well.

But it is clear that the

Process of dwindling binding force

of the people's parties CDU

and SPD will continue as well as

the rise of the AfD. You can do it

regret and shake your head too

about the strange mood

in eastern German federal states,

its citizens esmaterial

on average always better and

their dissatisfaction nonetheless

grows. But these developments

also have something positive: they lead to

that finally debated again

and there is arguing in the country.

That nothing is declared to be without alternative

will and in case of doubt CDU and

SPD always their smallest common

Denominator, the least

enforce creative solution. It

is more movement in the political

Play of forces than for decades. The

is good for democracy, democratic ones

Parties are after the

Choice probably more imagination

than ever need to be governable

To form majorities or also

try out a minority government.

That would not be a misfortune either

like the social democratic one

Prime Minister Reinhard Höppner

in Saxony-Anhalt before 25

Years has proven.

And yes, it's not nice when

a party with racist, folkish

and illiberal traits in general

how the AfD is so popular.

With men like that

Brandenburg top candidate

Andreas Kalbitz, who at one

Neonacite meeting with swastika flag

was there in Athens, but himself

when the AfD in Saxony reaches the 25th

Get percent of the vote

should - such a result means

also that 75 percent of the voters

voted against this party.

That's 75 percent for defense

political culture and

of open democracy, as it is in

the past decades in

Germany arose.

Fever measurements

in the East

Why the elections in Brandenburg and

Saxony even consequences

for world politics

By Holger Schmale

Track the

State elections in

Brandenburg and

Saxony on:

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The new confrontation has come

past elections to a

increasing voter turnout,

that too is a good sign. It

shows that more people are back in

the Federal Republic of the value of our

parliamentary-democratic

Recognize the constitution and at least

advocate it with their voice.

It's encouraging so far

no populist made it in Germany

has a confrontation between

the citizens and parliaments

bring about how politicians do this

like Donald Trump or Boris

Practice Johnson. You put on

the idea of ​​the strong man, the one

supposed "popular will"

also against the elected MPs

prevailed in parliaments.

That's a dangerous strategy

undermines democracy and in

can lead totalitarianism. The

the best remedies are strong ones

Voter turnout and awake parliaments,

the close contact with the

Voting and not especially

deal with yourself. The

shows great interest in the elections,

that with us the parliaments are at the center

political debate

stand.

State elections have in

Germany always has an impact

on federal politics. There

it's about very tangible consequences like

the majority in the Federal Council.

But they also influence that

political mood. So will

the performance of the Social Democrats

in the upcoming decision

include whether they are beyond the end of the year

out in coalition with the

CDU / CSU stay. Does that too

part of the tension of the election night

out that about the consequences for

Brandenburg and Saxony goes beyond.

What would it be for Angela Merkel

mean when the SPD into the opposition

would go to your political

To find your identity again? Even now

becomes the dwindling international

Chancellor's influence registered because

the end of their term of office is foreseeable.

How would it be

if they only have a minority government

would lead? But what

would early federal elections

with the associated

Power vacuum and the uncertain

Exit for the role of Germany

mean of which given the

many crises rather more than less

Leadership and commitment expected

becomes? So it shows that the voting decision

in two small Germans

Federal states follow up in

world politics can have.

That the elections of all times

September 1, the 80th anniversary of

German attack on Poland, take place,

gives them a special one anyway

Importance. One becomes everywhere

watch closely in Europe,

how strong the democratic civil society

against those forces

will claim that again

"Germany first" shout and the

Calling European unification into question.

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Foreign friends

In search of summer - we start in Berlin and travel to the

near East. Our destination shortly before the election: Vogelsang in Brandenburg.

The last Russian soldiers left East Germany 25 years ago.

From the secret town in the forest near Vogelsang, which once housed 15,000 people

lived, only a few traces remain. About a difficult neighborhood

Text: Frank Junghänel; Photos: Paulus Ponizak

Suddenly they were gone. You get that too

hear when you go to Vogelsang for the Russian

Neighbors asks. Not at all

big questions, because the place on the railway track

between Zehdenick and Templin has only 76 inhabitants.

A couple of farmsteads on the right and left of the B109, and that's it

one through. But there was another bird song, that one

Address itself was written in Cyrillic letters. Es

was north of the village in a curve of the Havel,

who look young and fresh through the landscape of the

Uckermark meanders. In the weddings of the cold

During the war, 15,000 lived in this secret city in the forest

Soldiers. Sometimes a few thousand more, sometimes a few thousand

less, depending on the world situation. The Vogelsang garrison

was one of the largest bases outside the Soviet Union.

Tanks and howitzers were waiting in the huge halls

and missiles with their crews on the

Emergency. A good hour away from Berlin. And then

the emergency took place without her.

“We didn't notice much,” says Reiner

Lebelt, a robust man of 83 years, who soon after

the turn as a liberal democrat to the mayor of

Vogelsang was chosen. “It was no longer in operation

than usual, army trucks were always driving around here. "

At some point he was with a few people in the forest

cycled to see what's going on. "The goods

path. Everything empty. ”There was no roll call, no handover

to the authorities, no brass band, no do swidanja.

"You have quietly disappeared," says Lebelt and sounds

almost melancholy. It was all 25 years ago.

On August 31, 1994, the Soviet Army withdrew its troops

from East Germany officially ended. A total of

more than half a million soldiers and officers entered

start their journey home with their families. As the soldiers

went, not only 10,000 dogs and cats remained

back, but also a lot of concrete and steel. In front

But above all memories of the people around them

they lived. It's not that easy

as you will see, not even today.

Mario Hoffmann has the material legacy

prescribed. The Donut from the Friedrichshain,

dressed in cargo pants, rain jacket and hiking boots,

organizes guided tours through the

Ghost town in the forest, always at the end of August, for the anniversary

of the deduction. Has the mandate of the Brandenburgische

Property management covering the huge area

gradually privatized after neither from the

Ecovillage has become something from the hazardous waste dump

is.

In terms of area, it corresponds to the Russian Vogelsang

roughly in the districts of Friedrichshain and Mitte.

Hoffmann knows all the data and facts about the garrison, he

knows exactly which property was built and when

what purpose it served. Even where nothing has been done for a long time

more stands because more and more is torn down, collapses,

disappears, Hoffmann knows the story

behind every clearing in the forest. He knows about them

former military importance, calls regiments,

Structures, use. It sounds like this: “The

The 25th Panzer Division had some independent units

from chemical services to field bakery

in their stock. In an emergency, it would have been under the

20. Guard army or be able to act independently. "

When Hoffmann of the "development of the tank units"

speaks, drives one on this peaceful

Sunday morning to the clack-clack of the woodpecker

one time the cold war in the limbs.

We trudge on the beaten path through the undergrowth,

run for miles on dead straight concrete roads,

crossed by other dead straight concrete streets

become. There were once along these supply routes

550 buildings, spread over twelve military towns,

as the individual bases were called. Based

of the rows of poplars are still the former avenues

to guess. There were schools, kindergartens, hospitals there,

a maternity ward, sewage treatment plants, cultural centers,

Cinemas, mansions for the senior officers and one

Residential district with five-storey prefabricated buildings for

the middle ranks. The common soldiers came

in dormitories with up to a hundred beds under them

On the site of the

Vogelsang garrison: the

Hobby researcher Mario Hoffmann.

didn't even have their own locker. From the barracks

there is hardly anything left. "Here was a boiler house",

says Mario Hoffman and points to a meadow

"There were pigsties and greenhouses there."

The garrison was completely self-sufficient, a

Piece of the Soviet Union in the sand of Brandenburg. With administration,

Shops and a headquarters of the military intelligence service

GRU. This house, too, with its holding cells

in the basement has long since disappeared. 15 years ago

the area for the compensation project for the motorway expansion

certainly. Whenever on the Donut

Ring the route is expanded and nature is concreted,

a stain in Vogelsang must be "unsealed" to the same extent

become. In this way some of the former became

Tank halls converted into bat quarters.

Where once the heavy chariots were parked

now these filigree creatures have found shelter.

The garages were buried underground and

provided with a grass cover. Only the small entry slots witness

of their new use.

Mario Hoffmann was the first twenty years ago

Malauf the abandoned garrison, actually out

photographic interest. He is 48 years old, his holidays

he usually had with his grandma's close friends during the GDR era

Storkow spent. The Russians were omnipresent there too.

Their bases were in effect after the withdrawal

as so-called lost places, lost places, and the photo amateurs their passion

Live out for decay and Soviet kitsch

could. Every bust of Lenin is a supermodel.

But his interest continued and now it is listening

no longer open. Hoffmann, who works full-time in schools,

Nursing homes and kindergartens provided with lunch,

became a military historian in his spare time

researches in archives, researches in the network, exchanges ideas

with experts. On the website heimatgalerie.de

he has documented the findings on Vogelsang.

His three closest comrades on this matter

are singles, two of whom have not been long

Wife and child. You have to be careful, says Hoffmann,

the line between madness and hobby is thin.

Moving like the stalker in Andrej Tarkowski's film

we choose a zone away from the main routes

Decay and reawakening. In the shade of the birch trees

Aspens and pines that are the first to get the battered

Reclaiming the terrain, rotting the remaining walls.

Behind concrete barriers and trampled

Barbed wire dives into a huge bunker in the middle of the forest

with sliding doors, one for MarioHoffmann

Has explanation. Were here from April to September of the

1959 Russian nuclear weapons stationed, of what

not even the GDR leadership knew anything

R5 M (SS 3) missiles had a range

of up to 1200 kilometers and were on targets in

France and Great Britain addressed. In the bunkers

they are stored and assembled, the potential

Starting positions are somewhere in the forest, says Mario

Hoffmann. He is still looking.

The GDR not only knew nothing about the first nuclear missiles,

which were to be followed by others later. she knew

very little at all about what's going on on the bases

the Soviet Army played. She wasn't even

informs how many such objects are on

their territory even existed during an inventory

after the withdrawal, there were over 1,100 properties

in more than 600 places in the country. Most agreed

around Berlin, in 237 places today

Brandenburg. The Western Group of the Soviet Armed Forces,

as they called themselves from 1988 onwards, was the elite troop

the army. In the end it comprised 380,000 soldiers

and 170,000 civilians. Most of the deployment costs

the GDR had to bear four billion

Mark a year. But nobody should know that either. So

everyone made his own picture. Liberator, brother,

Occupier. Depending on. Friends, Soviets, Russians. Of

most of them were neither feared nor loved.

They have been ignored. Sometimes you saw "Muschkoten",

as some called them derogatory, on hot days

the siding in the open doors of the freight wagons

Squat while facing the Reichsbahn express train

held. They didn't look like war winners.

Peter Keibel saw the Red Army in the spring

1945 came to the area. He was then 15 years old

soon it will be ninety what you can do with his stately

Occurrence does not notice at all. 35 years

he was chief forester in the Zehdenicker forest. To the Russians

he has his own opinion. “The fighting one

Troop didn't cause any problems, ”he says,“ they did

only looking for soldiers. But then the entourage came

and a lot of shit happened under alcohol. "

In March 1949, fresh from forest school in

Eberswalde, received the order, north of Vogelsand

to cut down a huge area. 800 forest workers

were assigned to him, equipped with shot saws. "The

was a healthy forest that survived the war unharmed

had ”, says Keibel, who at the time considered the order oppressive

felt. The wood went as a reparation payment

to the Soviet Union. Aligned on the cleared area

the Russians set up a firing range, which is then the nucleus

formed for the later garrison. In the difference

to other locations such as Wünsdorf or Jüterbog,

which were built on former Wehrmacht barracks,

Vogelsang was built next to the practice area in the middle

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THE EAST GOES

SUMMER ON

The summer series of Donutnewspaper, Part 11

THE LITTLE TRAVEL GUIDE: VOGELSANG

Distance from Berlin-Alexanderplatz:

almost 70 kilometers

Duration of the journey by car:

One and a half hours

Number of overnight places: 0

Population: 76

Party with the strongest election result: SPD (local election)

Annual highlight: Easter bonfire

Most important sight:

Wet biotopes in the area

Culinary specialty: pikeperch

Next swimming opportunity:

Mahnkopfsee, two kilometers away

the base as particularly secret and was even for

Spy satellites difficult to locate.

As a forester, Peter Keibel always had with the

Russians do. "They made fire wherever they are

settled down, even in midsummer. ”When extinguishing

the forest fires that inevitably resulted,

but then they would mostly have helped diligently.

In general, the soldiers are in the workforce

Forest and agriculture have been indispensable

Russians were happy to get out of the camp

get. That was the best thing that happened to them

Our wives brought them sausage sandwiches.

They always only got Kascha. "What is

because that? “Buckwheat porridge,” says Peter Keibel. And plowed

they "like the Caraway Turks".

He couldn't say anything bad about the Russians

he would like to emphasize. After all, they are not

came to Germany for fun, that belongs

to the truth about it. Your provincial farewell

1994 with the drunk Yeltsin he found shameful.

“The Russians have shaped my life,” he says.

Even in a tragic way. In the event of a traffic accident in

His son died in 1982 near Neuruppin.

After a party he was up on his motorcycle

crashed into a broken-down truck that had no light

stood on the street. “So should I all Russians

asks Keibel. “I don't even hate the poor one

Guy who fell asleep behind the handlebars. "

Naschhausen

Rome

Heart leap

Ice village

Lederhose

Next

week

Aalbude

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Vogelsang

Desert grove

Small lifeguard

Weather joke

Love rose

Altliebel / Rietschen

Unlike the officers, the soldiers felt the same way

GDR not much better than in their homeland. Many were

not older than eighteen, nineteen years. Not all

"Russians" were Russians, leading to racist attacks

They were homesick and humiliated

the veteran. The so-called Dedovshchina,

the rule of the grandfathers, stood for

a systematic repression of the recruits. To

Estimates from 1990 are annual in the GDR

up to 4,000 Soviet soldiers perished

- through accidents, excesses of violence and suicide. Quite a few

tried to desert, but few succeeded

the escape. The most famous deserter if you can

may say so, came from Vogelsang. In 1978 a soldier arrived

in the stolen minibus Barkas to the street Unter

den Linden in Berlin, where he was the pursuer in the hail of bullets

was seriously injured. After that his

Trace in the files of the military intelligence.

Crime related to the Russian

Troops was an absolute taboo in GDR times. Alone

for the years 1976 to 1989 are in the files of the MfS about

27,500 offenses committed by Soviet soldiers on GDR territory

as well as traffic offenses and thefts

Assault, robbery, rape and murder

GDR justice had no access to the perpetrators. It was true

Right of the occupiers. The Russians, it is said, had in

made short work of particularly severe cases.

As the Donut Filmmaker Stefanie Trambow together

with her husband Maxim Stepanov before five

Years after contemporary witnesses for their documentary “Lenin

inVogelsang “, reported on the Russian side

almost only former officers and their wives and

Children. You all have the best memories of that

GDR. Anna Revutsky still remembers how in the cinema of

Vogelsang went into labor, Andrei Balyan has gone

bought records in Zehdenick, and Vladimir Alyakin,

a former colonel, pervaded with self-conscious

Steps down the ruins of the staff building

Office, my desk, my window. ”A moving one

historical perspective is offered by Filipp Zharkoy,

At the Groß Dölln airfield:

Birgit Halle, Karin and Manfred

Lentz, Siegfried Haase (from left).

when he reports on the attack by the Wehrmacht

Fought through the whole war in 1941 until the storming of Berlin

Has. From 1967 to 1972 he was then in Vogelsang

stationed. "A difficult time", he says, "always alarms,

Exercises, always tense. "

Stefanie Trambow, born in 1982, comes from herself

Zehdenick, she only knew the Russians from stories

of her grandparents and wanted to know what

remember the people in Vogelsang today, on the one hand

like on the other side. With the Germans it is

not been so easy to gain confidence says

you. Many preliminary talks were necessary. And then too

some women would have remained silent. The word rape

did not have to be pronounced. A total of

Stefanie has 50 hours of video and audio material

Trambow collected. So diverse are the emotions

of the locals versus the Russians too

be, one thing has struck her: the more people get involved earlier

the Russians had to deal with, the better theirs is today

Opinion about them, and vice versa.

What a reason the west

to put it so broadly, present-day Russia

viewed much more critically than many East Germans

to do. The ambivalence of commanded brotherhood

Manfred Lentz had and lived everyday life in mind when he

a year ago together with two colleagues that

Initiated the project “The Russians as Neighbors”.

Lentz, gray beard, baseball cap, hiking vest, is only in

came to the area when the Russians were already gone.

After completing his degree, he decided to work as a political scientist

West Berlin specialized in the GDR and the Soviet Union. Thirty

Years ago it became his field of research

go, because for him it doesn't work without it either,

He is now doing further private research. There were family ties

to the Uckermark, and so the 69-year-old is together

with his wife Karin, a retired

Public prosecutor, moved to the village of Kurtschlag in 1995,

which, like Vogelsang, is now a district of

Zehdenick is. Birgit grew up in Kurtschlag

Halle, 61, short copper-red hair, long as a teacher

worked in Potsdam and now lives in the neighboring village.

The third in their research network is Siegfried

Haase, also 69 years old. Haase was only three kilometers

born further, in Groß Dölln, that was already at

Schorfheide heard. After years in Berlin, where he was taking

worked as a technician at the Deutsches Theater

he went to his parents' house some time ago

returned. Haase's passion is metal art. Be

Hair turned gray early on, is in a portrait

the local newspaper to read about the "Heide-Rebell".

1984 was when the Russians on the outskirts of his father

to death and one from the mother as compensation

A load of coal and a few canned goods dropped.

With Peter Keibel the son, here the father - and again

no trace of neighborhood hatred. “I don't tend

for generalization, ”says Siegfried Haase.

They have around fifty conversations with residents

three led. Lentz has arranged everything, and now lies

a carefully edited and illustrated work from 160

Pages before that on the portal kurtschlag.de in the net

is published. The interviews are very different

run, says Siegfried Haase, "depending on

whether you are in the GDR as system compatible

or felt like a victim ”. The conclusion was:

"We didn't love the Russians, but it was okay."

Contacts between the villagers and the Russians

I'm most likely to have it outside of the compulsory courses

given when fishing on the lake, when swimming or also

in the pub.

from cigarettes to Kalashnikov was on

End of having it all. But mostly they are under

stayed. If you didn't want to, you didn't have to

Have contact. Private encounters were welcome

anyway not. “You shouldn't see how good it is

we went, "says Siegfried Haase," and we shouldn't

find out how they are doing. "

Birgit Halle tells about two women from the village,

the one at the bakery with a Russian on the bank

sat and sang songs. One day the soldier came

and said in German: “Our friendship is closed

great, I have to go now. ”Women never have it

seen again.

Despite such stories, the political scientist wonders

well, why the Ostler look at the Russians so benevolently,

although they did against the GDR in the autumn of 89

took to the streets. This contradiction is in

all the interviews never came up. "Without

the Russians would not have existed in the GDR ”, says

Lentz. Siegfried Haase, who was then part of the citizens' movement

committed, replies: “The Russians were for

us not the problem. There were many here who had their GDR like that

wanted to have. "Lentz:" That is a bit too short-sighted,

Siegfried. ”Haase:“ And then the people are too

grew up with such skepticism towards America. ”That

play a role subliminally. “When you think of the

Russians, it is said, speaks to the Americans

it is no different. ”Now KarinLentz intervenes:

“That also has to do with nostalgia. Mancontain the

Good memories. ”Before something comes on the table

What was good about the Russian occupation, says Birgit Halle:

"They are simply different mentalities."

In the forest near Groß Dölln was in the early 1950s

Association with the garrison Vogelsang the largest and

most modern Russian airfield outside the Soviet Union

been erected. In the 1980s, the

almost four kilometers long main runway as an emergency landing strip

expanded for the space glider Buran.

The bombers that were supposed to take off in Groß Dölln are

Long since scrapped, a space shuttle never landed.

The kilometer-long concrete track has been in place for a few years

equipped with solar panels that cover a whole small town

can electrify. But even 25 years after

Troop withdrawal is made from kerosene at the airfield

pumped out of the groundwater. Are in the underground

the Russians are still present for a long time, even if

over there the heather blooms so beautifully.

Many protected bird species can now be heard here

and, if you're lucky, to see too, says Siegfried

Haase, who knows his way around as an ornithologist. To the

rare inhabitants of the open countryside, like them

can be found everywhere on the abandoned bases,

include, for example, hoopoe, nightjar and

Skylark, so much for Vogelsang.

Frank Junghänel

personally doesn't know a single Russian, although he does

Learned her language for 14 years, unfortunately unsuccessfully.


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politics

Andreas Kalbitz at an event in Falkensee, Brandenburg. In another campaign speech he said: “The AfD is the last evolutionary chance for this country. After that, the only thing left to do is put on your helmet. And I do not want that."

DPA / RALF HIRSCHBERGER

Kalbitz was with NPD people at the neo-Nazi demonstration in Athens

Before the state election in Brandenburg, new serious allegations against the AfD top candidates are known. He admits that he was at the event

VonJens Blankennagel, Potsdam

The Brandenburg AfD

Top candidate Andreas

Kalbitz will always be

previous contacts again

accused of being in the neo-Nazi scene.

Nevertheless, his party stands

in polls at around 20 percent and

with the SPD ruling in Potsdam

in 1st place.

Just before the eagerly awaited

State elections on Sunday in

Brandenburg and Saxony become

new allegations are now known. On Friday

made the mirror public,

that Kalbitz, who went to the far right

Wing of the AfD around the Thuringian

Country manager Björn Höcke heard on

January 27, 2007 in Athens

supposed to get there on a march

Greek "Patriotic Alliance"

to participate. It is about

a right-wing extremist alliance in

Environment of the neo-Nazi party

"Golden morning glow".

The NPD chief was there too

As a source for this information

Der Spiegel calls the German Embassy.

There was a liaison officer there

of the Federal Criminal Police Office

drafted a report in which it

means that "14 German neo-Nazis"

were on site, including the one at that time

NPD boss Udo Voigt and Kalbitz.

Was against an NPD man

Andreas Kalbitz: He was

Born in Munich in 1972

and served as a for twelve years

Paratrooper of the German Armed Forces

in the boy

Union and the CSU active.

Then he was with the far right

Republicans.

according to Spiegel later determined for years,

because he was suspected of having one

second National Socialist underground

(NSU).

The men are said to be in Athens

stayed in the same hotel. As

there at night one on a balcony

Swastika flag hung up

there was a police operation.

Later, people probably threw

Molotov cocktails from the anarchist scene

in the hotel entrance

and on the balcony with the flag.

"Yes, I was in Athens then",

said Kalbitz the Donutnewspaper.

“But I'm not with the so-called

NPD tour group on the way

been. "He did notice

that also NPD people

Place were. “But there were thousands

People from all over Europe. ”About

the demo said the 46-year-old: “In

the subsequent evaluation of this